Chronic Logic

Zatikon => Units => Topic started by: paulb84 on March 28, 2009, 12:34:36 AM

Title: Serpent
Post by: paulb84 on March 28, 2009, 12:34:36 AM
Hi everyone,

First of all, great game! Addictive, fun and strategic.
Great playing with/vs mongolian and others.


This post concerns the latest update. I don't like the new update that give serpents a 'pikeman' attack vs approaching enemies. I thought they were a balanced unit before. Given that the AI hydra spawns 5 a turn, they are also quite common in single player games.

Your thoughts?
Title: Re: Serpent
Post by: zatikon on March 28, 2009, 01:10:44 AM
There's going to be a revision of the unit summoners and the units they summon. The Hydra is at the top of the list.
Title: Re: Serpent
Post by: mongolian on March 28, 2009, 01:55:21 AM
The problem is that the druid's serpent is perfect (as it previously was pointless).  But yes, Hydra's serpents are too powerful.  The 2 clear choices are make Hydra weaker and keep serpents as is or let the Hydra summon a new type of spawn (something similiar to the old serpent).
Title: Re: Serpent
Post by: Kran on April 30, 2009, 01:28:23 AM
I do not think its overpowered. The serpent is very easy to kill. But could be added something like serpents cant attack automatically by diagonals.
Title: Re: Serpent
Post by: travcm on April 30, 2009, 01:34:34 AM
Oddly, I haven't seen a single hydra in single player since serpents were boosted.
Title: Re: Serpent
Post by: mongolian on April 30, 2009, 02:33:16 AM
Serpeant's only triggering on horizonal/vertical (no diagonals) seems like a great solution.  But, I have almost never seen a Hydra in constructed which makes me believe it's still worth it's heafty $550 pricetag.
Title: Re: Serpent
Post by: Kran on April 30, 2009, 12:49:43 PM
I use the hydra in contructed myself sometimes... With a mourner ^^
Title: Re: Serpent
Post by: mongolian on April 30, 2009, 06:01:16 PM
1x Hydra 550
1x Mourner 200
1x strategist 50
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I agree that even for $800 above, that's pretty powerful.  There aren't many decks that can handle it if given time.  It would make sense to only make snakes trigger on vertical/horizontals.  No diagonals.
Title: Re: Serpent
Post by: Lunaraia on May 01, 2009, 01:53:44 PM
Here is an idea for a new hydra Summon:


Wyvern

Life 4
power 3
actions 2
armor 1

Movement does not cost actions

Move to target lovation within 2 can be done 1/1

Attack target enemy
Range 2
Cost 1


Might Poison?
Title: Re: Serpent
Post by: Lumen on May 01, 2009, 04:28:35 PM
I think I'd prefer if they could only attack on diagonals and not laterally.  Then a couple of them together could still hold off from any direction, but cannot combine attacks with one another.
Title: Re: Serpent
Post by: Kran on May 02, 2009, 08:51:25 PM
Making it just defend in diagonals will make the defense of the snakes a bit better.
Title: Re: Serpent
Post by: Kran on May 03, 2009, 01:09:03 AM
Lunaraia, i think 1 less actions is better in the wyvern ^^.
Title: Re: Serpent
Post by: xsherlock on May 06, 2009, 11:58:42 AM
Lunaria,

That would be insane  power for hydra
Title: Re: Serpent
Post by: Kran on May 08, 2009, 10:39:56 PM
The hydra is nice like it is.