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Started by mongolian, October 30, 2008, 08:29:45 PM

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mongolian

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Overpowerful for $200. Let me say, I really appreciate having a unit move for free and want to see more units that move for free.  But moving  & attacking for free for 3 spaces is way way too much.

Recommended Changes:
(A) $250 unit (currently $200)
(B) Can only attack 2x per turn. Can move 3x.
© Can only move 2x per turn, but attack 3x?
(D) Needs to be 2-3 to deploy.

Nazoric

I haven't tried out the ranger since the changes.  I will be sure to test it out a little and let you know what I think.

mongolian

Still waiting for more feedback here.

I have to say that the Ranger is such a huge core unit in every deck cause it moves/attacks for 3 without taking up actions.   Perhaps the proper thing would be to move it's attack -1 or defense -1.  Despite I enjoy thoroughly playing it and still think its over powerful, Zatikon needs more FREE action units... just 1-2 more would be nice.  Heck, it's own category type of units would be even killer.  Especially a $50 free unit would be nice..like the scout used to be.  

Why not make a distant cousin of the old scout, where it moves for free doesn't unsommon and all it does is poison units?

garcia1000

I think Ranger is ok now. It already got a nerf from 5HP to 4HP. The problem is that some other 200 gold units are too weak (warrior, templar, knight), not that ranger is too strong.

Chronic Logic - Josiah

Ranger only has 3 power for his ranged attacks.  I have not seen a problem with him yet, been testing him.  The problem with free moving/attacking units is that you can stack them up with no commander units which in effect makes them cheaper.  This is not a major concern with a 200 point unit, but with a 50 point unit it is a major concern as we saw with the old Scout.

mongolian

I'M NOT INTERESTED IN CHANGING THE CURRENT SCOUT, FYI AS I LOVE IT, BUT I WANT TO SEE A NEW $50 FREE MOVING UNIT.

The old scout was completely broken:
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- 0 to deploy
- 0 to move 3 actions
- went back to hand to make it so difficult to protect


For $50, a free movement unit could be a lot of cool things:
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- Could cost 2 to deploy, but then 0 actions.
- Could cost 0 to deploy, but only have 2 actions.
- Could cost 0 to deploy & 0 for 3 actions, but can only attack once. (does not go back to hand, power3-4)
- Could cost 0 to deploy & 0 for 3 actions/attacks, but can only poison units (no normal attack , no going back to hand) has 1-2 hp.

Basically, the idea of a $50 FREE unit should be that it's easy as pie to kill but moves a lot and may/may not even due that much..like can only poison if within 2 range.

Nazoric

If you want to post a suggestion for a new unit, you might get better publicity if you put it in it's own topic mongolian. http://www.pontifex2.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

As a note, if you like free movement, try adding a sergeant to your army for now.

mongolian

hehe..totally forgot about serg.  I will be a pay-to-play member soon as rating/ranking is revised http://www.pontifex2.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>